don't get growth if you raise tax rates. and, california and several to the states, the top rate is approaching 50%, effectively with a 50% top rate. and, business has as much incentive to fire somebody, to lower costs, as to hire somebody to increase revenues. >> lou: we have a contemporaneous pareexperiment g on, in california bringing tax levels above 50%, the nation, right now, getting rea to move higher are we going to see california behave that's cas th in the coal mine, if you will when it comes to economic growth and the ability to support an ever-growing government. >> yes, people are fleeing california. california is a microcosm of what happens to countries that raise their tax rates. entrepreneurs flee and welfare recipients pour in and you get an unsustainable state of affairs, and that is california. unsustainable and meanwhile they are destroying silicon valley, which has been america's greatest asset. a source of all of our technology and our military power and potential for growth and we are skling it over with a cast of green goo and everybody is angling for gree

americans started going west following the california. for example, the california gold rush. a land didn't belong to them. the country did not belong to them. it was mexico. you went in, but 800 mining claims association got 3 million americans. after a while you decided, why keep on shooting at each other. in the beginning of the 20th century you go out, create a private property system. that brought in banks, and you create. >> but california really got rich. the rest of the world is not. what is the difference? >> you americans at that time were absolutely conscious of what the rule of law was about. people kept on moving from the east coast to the west coast george washington called in bandied. the band is don't have a right to be here. congress can around and said, oh, yes ey do. you start rewarding properton the basis of improvement. john: we did not always have these in america. american settlers worked out their own generally exempted right to property. >> those areas where you shaved off part of the tree. indicate they had accepted it. in some cases where they grew corn, for exa

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